UK Built Up Areas Risk Assessment

The Editor · Jan 13, 2017

bluelight.support said:
Im trying to understand how this will work in an emergency scene where we will try and fly a mission over the scene to create emergency mapping for scene management ?

You will need to speak to your NQE regarding Emergency Services training.
Many are doing Police/Emergency Service courses around the country.
Any officers etc still need to have completed a course since they are working sometimes in controlled airspace and would need to have an understanding of where, how, who to speak to and coordinate with in the event of emergency aircraft being present. Just handing a UAV to a copper and saying " See what video footage you can get" is not going to work.
Even in emergency situations the CAA is still responsible and still controls the NAS.

bluelight.support · Jan 13, 2017

The Editor said:
Any officers etc still need to have completed a course since they are working sometimes in controlled airspace and would need to have an understanding of where, how, who to speak to and coordinate with in the event of emergency aircraft being present.

Which is why I'm also looking at getting my VHF lic so can communicate with SAR, Police and HEMS on site. Im also looking at transponders and lighting for night use, but talking to several NQE Im looking at quite advanced compared to what they're used to!

The Editor · Jan 13, 2017

bluelight.support said:
Which is why I'm also looking at getting my VHF lic so can communicate with SAR, Police and HEMS on site. Im also looking at transponders and lighting for night use, but talking to several NQE Im looking at quite advanced compared to what they're used to!

Other than Ping, I'm not sure anyone has an ADS-B transponder marketed. Even then it will not currently interface into the Inspire 1 or 2 infrastructure.
We are going a bit OT here so you might like to start a separate thread for the subject.

bluelight.support · Jan 13, 2017

The Editor said:
Other than Ping

Yes its one of the new Ping models around £1300 i think. I was thinking about adding a second flight controller as as Pixhawk 2 specifically for secondary gns using the new HERE system to get cm accuracy in flight also.

The Editor · Jan 13, 2017

bluelight.support said:
Yes its one of the new Ping models around £1300 i think. I was thinking about adding a second flight controller as as Pixhawk 2 specifically for secondary gns using the new HERE system to get cm accuracy in flight also.

Can I ask to take this to another dedicated thread?
Happy to comment/help but don't want to derail this one.
Maybe set one up in the 'Public Safety section?
Thanks

lake_flyer · Jan 14, 2017

So happy to see the Certified section working!

Zap222 · Jan 14, 2017

You will need a restricted flying amendment to your ops manual. Pro forma risk assessment to hand out with instructions to basically lie on the floor in control loss situations. You will need spotters, not for the aircraft but for human targets.
Watch the TV and see how we fly. You will see much more elevation shots rather than travelling shots, much easier to control your environment and still get the changing perspectives of motion in your shots.
Lots of planning, site visits, more time consuming which will cost more. Let us know how you get on

bluelight.support · Jan 14, 2017

lake_flyer said:
So happy to see the Certified section working!

Please dont label me without knowing my background! Although still working through CAA training (only because i have been looking for the right NQE for the last 12 months, that can cater for our requirements), I have over a decade specialist experience in my field of emergency response both in a command role and operationally in real incidents. Ive invested over £30k on associated equipment for this and also undertaking training which a lot of UAV pilots would not even understand, so while I might be wet behind the ear in some areas, I am an expert in my field in others! I do not do photography or video, it is purely specialist image and thermal image capture, captured in extreme events. I do agree however of wrongly hijacking this thread on transponders - apologies!

lake_flyer · Jan 15, 2017

bluelight.support said:
Please dont label me without knowing my background! Although still working through CAA training (only because i have been looking for the right NQE for the last 12 months, that can cater for our requirements), I have over a decade specialist experience in my field of emergency response both in a command role and operationally in real incidents. Ive invested over £30k on associated equipment for this and also undertaking training which a lot of UAV pilots would not even understand, so while I might be wet behind the ear in some areas, I am an expert in my field in others! I do not do photography or video, it is purely specialist image and thermal image capture, captured in extreme events. I do agree however of wrongly hijacking this thread on transponders - apologies!

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I was just happy that the certified section worked for all of us, as in GOOD for us, and you apparently. I happened to be the guy who asked to form this forum section, and I got a sh*tload of negativism from hobbyists saying that we were just a bunch of elite guys.

If I would have answered you directly I would have understood your reaction. My post had nothing to do with you.

bluelight.support · Jan 15, 2017

lake_flyer said:
If I would have answered you directly I would have understood your reaction. My post had nothing to do with you.

no problem - sorry i misinterpreted as negative not positive!!

lake_flyer · Jan 16, 2017

bluelight.support said:
no problem - sorry i misinterpreted as negative not positive!!

That happens to the best of us. No problem

SimonMW · Jan 20, 2017

CAA Clarifies 50m Rule — The UAV Academy LTD

The CAA make reference to the fact that you could fly over someone at 51 metres height, as long as you could show satisfactory safety case and consideration for doing so.

The Editor · Jan 20, 2017

SimonMW said:
CAA Clarifies 50m Rule — The UAV Academy LTD

The CAA make reference to the fact that you could fly over someone at 51 metres height, as long as you could show satisfactory safety case and consideration for doing so.

Isn't that exactly what I said in posts 4 and 6 of this thread?

That is an old article you have linked to and don't forget the ANO has been rewritten since then.
Additionally, individuals PfCO maybe more (or less) restrictive and implicit with regards to directly flying overhead.
Your PfCO is regarded as a permission issued and therefore may give you greater freedom than strict 393 94/95 limitations