45mm / Gimbal settings ?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hello, <br /> <br /> today I tried the 45mm Olympus with my Inspire/X5 and noticed a slight slow &quot;shaking/wobble&quot; in the video, especially when flying forwards. It&#039;s not jello but looks more like the gimbal doesn&#039;t stabilize the pitch and yaw axis 100%, some kind of vibration.<br /> <br /> When flying lateral movements or backwards the results are much better...almost no shaking/wobble.<br /> <br /> The gimbal is balanced with 46mm ND filter plus step up ring, seems to be fine.<br /> <br /> As I flew in gimbal follow mode with GPS (not atti) ...could this be the reason for the problem ? Perhaps flying in free mode (dual operator) solves the shaking ?<br /> <br /> What are your advanced gimbal settings in the GO app for the 45mm Olympus ?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Do you have a hood on the cam?<br /> <br /> IMO it&#039;s simply that the turbulent airflow hits the lens more when moving forward. At 45mm FL the tiniest amount of movement will be visible.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18224" data-quote="infocus" data-source="post: 79848" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=79848" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-79848">infocus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hello,<br /> <br /> today I tried the 45mm Olympus with my Inspire/X5 and noticed a slight slow &quot;shaking/wobble&quot; in the video, especially when flying forwards. It&#039;s not jello but looks more like the gimbal doesn&#039;t stabilize the pitch and yaw axis 100%, some kind of vibration.<br /> <br /> When flying lateral movements or backwards the results are much better...almost no shaking/wobble.<br /> <br /> The gimbal is balanced with 46mm ND filter plus step up ring, seems to be fine.<br /> <br /> As I flew in gimbal follow mode with GPS (not atti) ...could this be the reason for the problem ? Perhaps flying in free mode (dual operator) solves the shaking ?<br /> <br /> What are your advanced gimbal settings in the GO app for the 45mm Olympus ? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I personally have not had that issue with mine, but the wind has been calm for the most part since I got my 45 mm lens. I will second what Kilrah said, &quot;@45mm any movement will be exaggerated over the 15mm&quot;. Hope it works out.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">There&#039;s no lens hood installed on my 45mm, only step up ring and 46mm ND filter...so there should be no issue with wind turbulences. I flew the lens on a calm day with almost no wind, but the slight shaking / vibration is still there. Have to stabilize every shoot with forward flight direction in Premiere CC, otherwise can&#039;t use the material...what&#039;s your experience with the 45mm: do you have to stabilize in postproduction ?<br /> <br /> @ Ralph Rigson: Which advanced gimbal settings do you use with the 45mm ? Do you fly the 45mm lens as a single operator? Which gimbal mode do you use (follow, free etc.)? Thanks for your help !</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I fly with and without hood no problems<br /> I use filter sometimes no problems<br /> I fly in follow mode most of the time<br /> Advance settings<br /> Gimbal pitch exp 3<br /> Yaw exp 5<br /> Gimbal yaw smooth 7<br /> Pitch smooth 6<br /> Gimbal synchronous follow ( yes)<br /> I fly 4 diff lenses but my favorite is the 45 mm. Amazing shots. I really haven&#039;t had any shaking. Is your firmware the latest? If so you can try downgrading then re upgrading to see if that helps. I know some of the x5 cameras have been finicky but the last 7 or 8 I have bought through my company have been really solid. You may have a faulty camera. I wish I could be more help. If you need anything just ask. I&#039;m always willing to help trouble shoot. <br /> <br /> Respectfully <br /> Ralph<br /> FlyHighUSA</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23074" data-quote="Chnjab" data-source="post: 79955" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=79955" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-79955">Chnjab said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Just an observation on my part. I&#039;ve seen what you describe when I have the gimble out of balance. Without knowing the weight of what your using I couldn&#039;t compare but I would try adding or subtracting weight and see if you notice a difference. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yep great thought!!!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18224" data-quote="infocus" data-source="post: 79949" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=79949" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-79949">infocus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> There&#039;s no lens hood installed on my 45mm, only step up ring and 46mm ND filter...so there should be no issue with wind turbulences. I flew the lens on a calm day with almost no wind, but the slight shaking / vibration is still there. Have to stabilize every shoot with forward flight direction in Premiere CC, otherwise can&#039;t use the material...what&#039;s your experience with the 45mm: do you have to stabilize in postproduction ?<br /> <br /> @ Ralph Rigson: Which advanced gimbal settings do you use with the 45mm ? Do you fly the 45mm lens as a single operator? Which gimbal mode do you use (follow, free etc.)? Thanks for your help ! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>One more thought. Have you tried resetting your camera in the tops section of the DJI GO app ? Worth a shot.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 27215" data-quote="philip_poupin" data-source="post: 80085" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=80085" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-80085">philip_poupin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ralph :<br /> why do you use Gimbal synchronous follow (&quot;yes&quot;)? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes I do use it. It just seems to work the best for me. What are your thoughts.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23074" data-quote="Chnjab" data-source="post: 80100" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=80100" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-80100">Chnjab said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> OK cool! I may debate or disagree from time to time but the introduction of different ideas and opinions are part of the point in my opinion. I do try to help when I can as we all hate that helpless feeling that accompanies not understanding something you desperately want to. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yep it can be really frustrating when you are just trying to help and suddenly your getting you but chewed out. Your good man.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I shot video for the first time today with my 45mm lens on my Inspire Pro...stills look fantastic. The video clips contained tiny shaking throughout the entire time. I shot with the DJI 15mm before and after with flawless results. Here is the video. I was flying with the hood on buy only making soft and slow moves, primarily up and down. Thanks for any insight. Hey <a href="https://matricepilots.com/members/3088/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="3088" data-username="@laselvasurf">@laselvasurf</a>...any experience here?<br /> <br /> <form action="/misc/cookies?update=1&amp;add=1" method="post" class="bbMediaJustifier" data-xf-init="cookie-consent-form ajax-submit" data-redirect="off" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="91PfjcJV-Pk" > <input type="hidden" name="_xfToken" value="1774439357,cea77a207de1ee9c848665165a92d03e" /> <div class="block-rowMessage block-rowMessage--alt"> <div class="u-dimmed u-smaller"> To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.<br> For more detailed information, see our <a href="/help/cookies">cookies page</a>. </div> <div class="u-inputSpacer"> <button type="submit" class="button button--small"><span class="button-text">Accept third party cookies</span></button> </div> <input type="hidden" name="consent[_third_party]" value="1" /> <input type="hidden" name="_xfRedirect" value="" /> </div> <template class="js-embedHtml"><div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="91PfjcJV-Pk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/91PfjcJV-Pk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div></template> </form></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">You know I went through that very same thing today for the first time. I have flown other days with no motion at all. It was a little windy today. I am going to balance the props and see if that makes a difference. The gimbal is balanced perfectly so I&#039;m curious why I had a good day and then a not so good day. I&#039;m not sure what changed. All my settings are the same. I will do another flight Tommorrow and see how it goes. The 45 mm lens is obviously going to show any movement far more quickly than the 15 mm DJI lens. I just can&#039;t figure out why it changed from one day to the next? I will post my results tomorrow. I hope together we ca figure it out.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Here is a short video of the shaking with my 45mm /X5 while flying slowly forwards...almost no wind. Looks similar to the shaking in ddublu&#039;s video I think.<br /> <br /> <form action="/misc/cookies?update=1&amp;add=1" method="post" class="bbMediaJustifier" data-xf-init="cookie-consent-form ajax-submit" data-redirect="off" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="QX3I6ckTHo0" > <input type="hidden" name="_xfToken" value="1774439357,cea77a207de1ee9c848665165a92d03e" /> <div class="block-rowMessage block-rowMessage--alt"> <div class="u-dimmed u-smaller"> To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.<br> For more detailed information, see our <a href="/help/cookies">cookies page</a>. </div> <div class="u-inputSpacer"> <button type="submit" class="button button--small"><span class="button-text">Accept third party cookies</span></button> </div> <input type="hidden" name="consent[_third_party]" value="1" /> <input type="hidden" name="_xfRedirect" value="" /> </div> <template class="js-embedHtml"><div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="QX3I6ckTHo0"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QX3I6ckTHo0?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div></template> </form> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://matricepilots.com/members/24768/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="24768" data-username="@Ralph Rigdon">@Ralph Rigdon</a> &amp; chnjab : Thanks for your help so far...I could not get out flying so far...short of time, but I would first try to rebalance the gimbal, although I think mine is balanced fine now, perhaps I have to &quot;unbalance&quot; it a bit to give steady results with the 45mm ?...my gimbal needs far less weight on the front than your gimbal, chnjab...needs only about 17g to be balanced...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I ordered the Olympus lens hood specified for the 45mm lens -- the LH-40B.<br /> <br /> Has anyone been using that hood and if so do you have a weight for it?<br /> <br /> <br /> Brian</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I have the plastic version of the hood for the 45mm. It balances perfectly.... somehow correcting the horizontal imbalance too.....<br /> It&#039;s 10g</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Wit my 15mm lens (stock), I get something slightly side heavy (left side when looking same direction as the lens / opposite of the motor). So I did the same with my 45mm. But I still get these wavy shakes. I have tried with the lens perfectly balanced. Same effect. What surprising is that I get the same movements of the gimbal when on the ground with the 15mm or 45mm. It&#039;s like the gimbal is trying to stabilize something that is not moving. Tried different gimbal settings : looks the same. One interesting thing is that the movements of the gimbal diminish when I leave it for a few minutes on the ground.<br /> I am trying with a B+W 37mm which weighs around 14g. And some rubber bands (from a bike tyre) to add a few more grams.<br /> <a href="http://www.inspirepilots.com/threads/45mm-gimbal-settings.8780/members/chnjab.23074/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Chnjab</a>, I would be interested to see some footage you did with the 45mm balanced. I will try to get a vented hood as well.</div>
 

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